Yeah. And, like, I think the Liars had him initially... but somehow he got into the hands of the Vengeance people. I remember Hadassah mentioning this real vague like. I've never met him, but I kind of get the feeling he'd be super turned off by mean, since I'm all [ makes a motion at her everything. ] but he's Hurricane's bud and even if he's kind of, like, not the brightest he's definitely got a good heart.